6/3/2008 Sam Dragos ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Ce ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Version Information/Copyright 2. Background 3. Moveset 4. Skill Tree 5. Musou Mode 6. Fighting Analysis 7. FAQ/Frequently Asked Questions 8. Credits/Contact Info ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Version Information ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.0: Researched his background, took changes from DW6 and previous DW's, started on his moveset, built his skill tree, created musou mode, created FAQ, and finally gave credit to where credit is due. Copyright: This FAQ is for *gamefaqs.com* use only, if you wish to take information from this FAQ, please contact me to get the thumbs up for approval otherwise you violate copyright. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Background ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Ce Born - 175 AD Died - 200 AD Sun Ce is the eldest son of Sun Jian, along with his younger brother Sun Quan and little sister Sun Shang Xiang. All 4 members were known as the Sun family. Following Sun Jian's death, Sun Ce came under the command of Yuan Shu. Being the ambitious leader of the Sun family, Sun Ce was not under Yuan Shu's control for very long. He exchanged the Imperial Seal which his father had found for some 3,000 troops to retake the Jiang Dong province his father had once established under his banners. During the initial conquest Sun Ce had many capable officers in his ranks including Huang Gai, Zhou Yu, Cheng Pu, and many other officers. Huang Gai known for his loyalty to WU, and Zhou Yu being Sun Ce's best friend(BFF JILL) and sworn brother. Over a short period of time Sun Ce was quickly gaining control over most of Jiang Dong, and by then the people and his soldiers began calling him the "Little Conqueror." As Sun Ce began building up the Kingdom of WU, according to Luo Guanzhong's novel, he was shot in the face with an arrow while being ambushed. Even with the wound he fought off several assasins with no weapon. Aid finally came and the assasins were killed however days later, a ghost from Sun Ce's past haunted him. This ghost was Yu Ji, the immortal that Sun Ce had executed reasons being that his father fought and killed false wizards and people with strange powers in order to end the chaos. Yu Ji haunted Sun Ce till his grave, and power was handed to Sun Quan. To unlock Sun Ce, you must play Sun Jians story mode and play on Xia Pi. From there you must not allow Sun Ce, Zhou Yu, and Sun Quan to be killed. New Sun Ce: Sun Ce has changed to say the least, he has a new look and a new WEAPON, I know we all missed his tonfas. Anyways, he looks more like a Spartan soldier now, and with his new style a lot of girls are liking the new look, it's a video game but who cares. Instead of tonfas, Sun Ce is now killing thousands of soldiers with an awesome spear. Some things have stayed with Sun Ce, including his attitude and the speed of his attacks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Moveset ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- s: Downward slash ss: Upward slash sss: Side slash ssss: Spins and stabs sssss: Downward slash ssssss: Upward slash sssssss: Does a 360 slash ssssssss: Slash upwards also attacking with end of weapon sssssssss: Spinds the other way with a slash ssssssssss: Repeatedly sends out airwaves at an angled level Hold T: Does a 360 with his spear, at infinite renbu he sends a shockwave. T: Spins while hitting enemies with spear. T: Adds another spin attack T: Does a side slash T: Creates a ground shockwave that damages all within the vicinity, may also guard break. Horse Charge: Does a powerful downwards slash. Horse attack: Does repeated downward slashes, number of attacks vary on renbu gauge. L2: Sends out his special which is swift attack R1: Rolls forward R1+Square: Grabs opponent and does multiple stabs then a stab with the spear behind his back. R1+Triangle: Grabs opponent with spear and throws him down, in a circular motion. Jump Charge: Jumps high in the air, does a turn and slams spear into ground and also sending out a directional shockwave Jump Attack: Jumps into air and does a sideways slash at the enemy. Deadlock Win: Digs spear into ground, kicks the enemy twice, then comes back down and soes a 360 slash. Counterattack: Swings around with a slash. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Skill Tree ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1----------2 / \ 3 4--------5 6 7 / / \ \ / \ / 8 9 10 11----------------12 13 / / \ \ / / 14----15-16---17 18 19-----------------20 / \ \ / \ 21 22 23---24------------25-26-27---28----29----30 / \ / / 31---------32-------------33----------------34------35-----36 / \ / / \ / 37-38 39---40---41 42 \ 43 \ / \ / \ / 44--45--46 47---------------48 -49- 1:Attack+ 2:Victors Aura 3:Rage 4:Third Renbu 5:Life+ 6:Musou++ 7:All+ 8:Life++ 9:Pouch 10:Musou+ 11:Attack++ 12:Life++ 13:Musou++ 14:Life+ 15:Attack+ 16:Attack+ 17:Musou++ 18:Musou+ 19:Wild Rage 20:Defense+ 21:Spirit 22:Water Sense 23:Infinite Renbu 24:Musou+ 25:Attack++ 26:Bonus Special 27:Defense+ 28:Defense+ 29:Defense++ 30:Defense++ 31:Life+ 32:Attack+ 33:Attack+ 34:Defense+ 35:Command 36:Defense+ 37:Attack+ 38:Musou+ 39:Attack+ 40:Musou++ 41:Life++ 42:Attack++ 43:Special Start 44:Adrenaline 45:Life+ 46:Swift Foot 47:Musou+ 48:Battlecry 49:All+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Musou Mode ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well first off you might already know that Sun Ce does not have a Musou Mode. I thought this a little strange since he started the Kingdom of WU, whereas Lu Xun and Gan Ning have one, I love everyone from WU but I thought it would be better if Ce had one instead. In order to remedy this, I have done some thinking and have compiled this list of Musou Modes. No cutscenes of course just some free mode action. Stage 1: The Yellow Turban Rebellion Stage 2: Battle of Hu Lao Gate Stage 3: Conquest of WU territory Stage 4: Invasion of Xu Chang Stage 5: Battle of Chi Bi Stage 6: Battle of Yi Ling Yellow Turban Rebellion: Difficulty-Easy Recommended Level:Any Ah the Yellow Turban Rebellion which has been in all of the Dynasty Warrior games except for probably the first one, which was fighting. It's the stage we all know and love, of course led by Zhang Jiao, aka Jesus, along with his wizardly yet freaky generals, Zhang Liang and Zhang Bao. If you have never played a Dynasty Warrior game before then be prepared to laugh at how ridiculous everyone sounds. The stage starts off with Sun Ce starting on the right with his father, Sun Jian. Break through the first gate and take out the first general that comes before your eyes, then move up the stairs and break down yet another gate. Once that has been accomplished, hurry and take over the base, then head towards the middle and jump down. A cutscene should appear, then keep heading towards the middle until you come upon another base, kill the officers and break down the bridge to have your allies join the frenzy. Next you have the choice of heading west or east, I would go with east, because fighting with WU is usually a better idea, since they are the best fighters. You should come across Huang Gai trying to break down a gate, help him destroy it and take over the base, then move up the steps break another gate down. You should come across a trapfield, destroy the officers which are pumped up on roids to stop the traps, keep moving with your fellow WU soldiers and break the next gate, one more gate after this I promise. You should encounter Zhang Liang, kill him quickly as he is also on steroids, if you are low on health at this point, either run back to a base or destroy the pot that is there for an elixir. After killing Zhang Liang, destroy the magical pot to stop the winds, you shouldn't worry about the west side, since your allies are keeping up with you. Pretty soon the wind on the stairs will stop and He Jin will join the battle yet again. Keep following Huang Gai north, and destroy the last gate then rush up the stairs and swing round towards the middle alter, there you will face Jesus along with some petty officers, kill those guys off quickly. Be cautious because Zhang Jiao is really strong and is raging red, if Sun Ce is weak then use my Fighting Analysis(Section 6) to defeat him. Beat him and stage 1 is over. Hu Lao Gate: Difficulty-Medium/Hard Recommended Level:20 Hu Lao Gate is a tough stage, and for veteran Dynasty Warrior fans, this stage is a nightmare with a fresh or underlevelled character, and I will explain as the stage wears on. You start off with Sun Jian and Zhou Yu and move along northeast, basically killing officers, breaking down gates, and taking over bases. the only part you have to worry about though is to watch for your allies and make sure they aren't getting beaten back. For now I would focus on rushing to allies if their morale is low, keep fighting until Zhang Liao shows up in the center base where the battle is congested. Zhang Liao will be like Zhang Jiao except being a better fighter, there is also the chance of gettin into a duel, so make sure you don't rush them by yourself if you don't want to duel. Defeat Zhang Liao and keep moving with your allies, soon you will reach Hu Lao Gate. Once there, defense captains and officers will be protecting Hu Lao north and south gate. Your objective is to break down the gates with the ram. To do this you must quickly dispatch all surrounding officers and kill any and all defense captains. Your seige engineers will start building ladders and catapults, protect the ladders, as they will help you tremendously. Once the ladders are set up, climb them and destroy the anti-seige weapons along the top of the wall. Once those are all down, our ally seige engineers will start building rams to break down the gates. You have one of two options here, the first one is to rush straight towards Dong Zhuo and break down his gate and kill him, or the more difficult option of facing the mighty Lu Bu. If your character is still fresh or below level 20, and you are still getting the hang of this I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T PURSUE LU BU. If you are an experienced veteran of this game and you are looking for a challenge, then pursue Lu Bu and kill him....quickly. Conquest of WU Territory: Difficulty-Easy Recommended Level: Any This stage is pretty much straightforward. Kill all enemy officers is the victory condition. All you pretty much have to worry about is your commander getting killed, however if you yourself are killing quickly, then you have no worries. Yuan Shu will come later for reinforcements as your enemy, and SHU will come as reinforcements to aid you in defeating Yuan Shu. Basically, this is a free for all, so do as you please. Invasion of Xu Chang: Difficulty-Easy Recommended Level: 10 This battle is where Sun Ce's forces make a preemptive strike against Cao Cao. It is a huge map with a very beautiful castle, the music is also quite intriguing. You first start off in front of the castle gates. From here you have two options, the first being the fastest, the second being the longest. We will go through the longest way first. You first start off by killing all the defense captains and breaking through the wall, use the same strategies as in the Hu Lao Gate battle, once after the gate is broken, keep heading north and you will come up to three or four officers, kill them. Once that is done, you will come across the inner gate, break it down the same way as you did for the outer gate. Once you break through, you will head north up the castle stairway, beautiful view, personally my favorite view out of all the stages. Fight your way through and eventually Xiahou Dun and Yuan will show up with reinforcements, total officers should be around eight. You can choose to kill them or kill the enemy commander to finish the stage. Now that is said, let's move onto the much easier way. After you finish reading this you will bang your head against something for not seeing it earlier haha. Once again you start off in front of the gate, move west and go through a forest, there should be a base to the far left, break through and continueto the right out of the base, keep heading north for a bit and you will come across a gate, break it down and WOW you just got past TWO castle gates, now rush the commander and win. Battle of Chi Bi: Difficulty-Easy/Medium Recommended Level: 20 This battle can be easy or hard, depends if the fire attack is successful or not. I would make the fire attack succeed for a sure win, in order to do this you must have the wind prayer succeed and Huang Gai defection occur. From the start of the stage, start killing off any enemies that are near you. Also try and take over some bases while you are at it. When you receive the message of Zhuge Liang ascending the alter, you must then rush there as quickly as possible. Once there, enemies will be heading towards the alter or already attacking Zhuge Liang. Defeat all the officers before Zhuge Liang is defeated, once that is done the wind prayer will succeed. From there Zhou Yu will give the command for Huang Gai to begin the fire attack. You need not worry about Huang Gai. From the alter, just jump down and head towards the ships, start killing everyone that crosses your path. By now the fire attack should occur and all your enemies on the ships will have lost a significant amount of health, easy battle so far. Once everyone on the ships is defeated and Sun Quan is free from enemies, you may then head towards Cao Cao and defeat him to win the battle. Battle of Yi Ling: Difficulty-Medium Recommended Level: 25 The battle of Yi Ling is a battle of vengeance for Guan Yu's death led by the enemy forces commanded under Liu Bei. From the start of the stage move east, along the shoreline and quickly kill officers and take over as many bases as possible before the fire attack by Zhu Ran occurs. Once that is done, Zhang Fei will lose his rage and will be much easier to defeat. After a short while you will begin to see that enemies you have previously defeated have come back from the dead, zombies you might say. No, it is some sort of magic created by Zhuge Liang, and we all know how Sun Ce hates magic, so let's go and finish off the Sleeping Dragon. In order to make the enemies stop spawning, you must enter the Stone Sentinel Maze and navigate your way through to the middle. This can be very confusing however it can be done in a minute or two, make sure you have a horse and don't stop moving. Once in the middle, you will come across Zhuge Liang surrounded by Guan Ping and many other foes, defeat them all as quickly as possible. Once they are all defeated, you will see stone statues all in a circle, destroy all the statues to make the officers stop reappearing and also show the pathways of the maze on the map, now you won't be lost anymore. Exit the maze, and check if there are any enemies attacking or close to attacking Sun Quan, head towards Sun Quan and help your brother kill off the attacking forces. Once Sun Ce's brother is safe, head north and defeat all the remaining officers and kill Liu Bei to finish the battle and Sun Ce's Musou Mode. Congratulations, you have beaten a Musou Mode in Free Mode!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Fighting Analysis ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- In order to utilize Sun Ce to his fullest potential, you must first understand the proper techniques of this game are. When playing on master or chaos, it is quite easy to see that you cannot button mash square and triangle. Rather you must learn to roll every attack or two, by doing this you evade any oncoming enemy attacks. Right after Sun Ce has recovered from his roll, you must instantly start pressing square, then after attack or two, rinse and repeat. This is especially useful when clearing large crowds. There are many advantageous side effects by doing this. Since Sun Ce's first two attacks are primarily wide ranged, the simple technique of "Roll Attack" as I like to call it, will gradually fill up your musou in no time. Once it's filled, unleash your wrath upon the enemy. Some argue that it is best to not use it all, and some argue to completely deplete, however I like to use it until an enemy officer is killed and end the musou, or use it all to clear a path to escape, the choice is yours when using it. His special, swift attack, is extremely useful in any situation where you find yourself surrounded by a horde of enemies. My suggestion is to spam it whenever you have the oppurtunity, since Sun Ce can only carry two and he gets a free tome whenever he reaches 300 K.O.'s, I say go right ahead and use it. He first sends out a purple shockwave that will dramatically weaken foes and also boost your attack, it is basically a musou attack but you can get hit. With that said, it easy to say that Sun Ce is a great crowd clearer, however can the same be said about dueling? There will be times where you are challenged to a duel, especially one where it is a hard level and you are playing on a high difficulty, I will now give some sugestions on how to duel properly for Sun Ce. When challenged to a duel and you need your musou filled up for a quick finish, I suggest you use his Hold+T attack to knock some oppenents out while replenishing your musou gauge, in some cases the enemy officers dueling will be on guard a distance from you and waiting to strike, this is a perfect oppurtunity to use Sun Ce's range. When actually dueling the officer I find it best to conserve your musou and only use it as a last resort. With that said, the only proper way to attack is to spam his charge chain. I highly warn others to stay away from regular attacks as the enemy can counter them at any second, and by using charge attacks you surely deplete their health into a musou kill range. But in order to attack all these foes properly, which weapon would be the best choice for Sun Ce to go into battle with? My opinion of the best weapon for Sun Ce is a standard weapon. His strength and skill weapons are good but playing at high difficulties, you need range and lots of it. I would like to add that Sun Ce attacks rather fast with a skill weapon however on master and chaos the range lost from skill is his undoing. strength is also good in situtations against enemy officers, with crowds he once again lacks range and would be pummeled by organized attacks. Sun Ce has phenomenal range which should be taken advantage of and with his swift attack bringing him to infinite renbu instantly, it is a dream come true. However to utilize standard weapons efficiently, it is best to have these "must have" attributes which include: Flash, True Musou, Mystic Seal, and Ice or Fire as the element. Flash will have a chance of giving instant death to soldiers and a huge loss of health to officers. True Musou is great because why would you have a regular musou, when you can have the strongest one. Mystic seal is also a wonderful attribute, it increases the effect of elements on weapons, let's say you have ice, more people will get frozen when you attack and do a bit more damage, same can be said about fire instead soldiers will burn. Fire is Sun Ce's original element and added with a fire weapon and can bring out the pyromaniac in you. Ice is a great element also since it freezes your opponents, which can do many things like buy you time to attack or run, or make your opponent immobile, so that your frenzy of swinging your spear can begin, or just laugh at the fool frozen inside. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What happened to Sun Ce's tonfas? A: KOEI decided to give him a spear because they felt a spear would go well with his Greek costume. Q: How do I get unique Horses? A: Look at the faqs/guides section and ctrl+F them, this FAQ was specifically made for Sun Ce. Q: Which weapon is best for Sun Ce? A: I believe that the best weapon for Sun Ce is the standard, because he has incredible reach, and for a character with swift attack and starts with a tome, he can reach infinite renbu with a click of a button. Q: I thought Sun Ce was dead before the battle of Chi Bi, why is he alive? A: In Zhou Yu's Musou Mode and Sun Jian's, Sun Ce makes appearances in battles he never participated in, mainly because he had died from an assasination. Q: What happened to Sun Ce's wife, da Qiao? A: Sadly she was cut from this installment, however fans do miss her so she most likely make a comeback in the next Dynasty Warriors game. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Credits ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would first like to thank parents for raising me and supporting me. Gamefaqs for the help it has gotten me through my video games and allowing me to give back Saika Magoichi for first giving me information on Sun Ce in Dynasty Warriors Muni Shinobu for giving me the thumbs up to use his material, KEEP IT UP!!! Kingdom_of_WU2 for giving me support JediChicken for also supporting me My fellow Dynasty Warriors fans who enjoy this game as much as I do TEAM CAKE for always keeping me interested KOEI for creating such a wonderful game And finally myself for actually writing this FAQ about my favorite character. 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