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strategy of staying on the ledges and firing at Fatalis. It offers the apparent
safety of the camp, if Fatalis comes too close, you can always duck back in to
reload or combine. This does waste some time of course. While on the ledge,
Fatalis cannot touch you even if his head comes menacingly close. However, note
that if Fatalis is airborne and zeroes in on you on the ledge, you don't have
much space to dodge a fireball. Also, stray cluster shots from your teammates
can sometimes knock you off the ledge and right into Fatalis. Sometimes,
Fatalis gets so enraged by a stationary gunner on the camp ledge that he
actually lands on the ledge itself, with fatal results to the gunners on it.
The other ledge, with the ballistas, however, seems to be too small for Fatalis
to land on, but it offers no room to escape if he fireballs you there.

On the other hand, and especially if you have the fire-resistant combo,
ledge-camping becomes a viable strategy. If two players are on either ledge,
Fatalis sometimes gets lured into the space between them, in front of the gate.
The other two gunners on the courtyard can get off many shots while he is so
preoccupied. If Fatalis can be grounded at this spot, he offers a good target
for all as he tries to fly up and escape.

The more 'advanced' strategy is for gunners to stay in the courtyard, walking
close to Fatalis' side and firing at him either on the ground or while he is in
the air. On the ground, sticking to his side and timing your movements to avoid
getting in front of his face, is a good strategy, but only after you have
enough experience to understand his moves and attacks.

A mix of the two strategies is probably a good idea, as gunners are spread out
in the courtyard. Bunching up is not a good idea for obvious reasons. While
Fatalis' attention is focused on a target it gives time for the other gunners
to relocate, reload or combine.


Can Fatalis be stunned, poisoned or put to sleep?
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Yes, apparently, you can inflict status effects on Fatalis, although it is hard
to do so.

The most practical status effect is stun, and you can stun Fatalis with Stun
Lvl 2 shot. Thanks to data from Monster Hunter G, provided by Gravados, we
learn that Fatalis has a Stun tolerance of 400, and that each Stun Lvl 1
inflicts 25 points of stun, and a Stun Lvl 2 inflicts 50 points.

When a stun shot is fired, stun points build up until the tolerance level is
reached, after which the monster becomes stunned. Stun points are also lost at
a constant rate, so to stun a monster, you have to keep firing stun shots at a
rate faster than it is lost. In practice, with two gunner shooting Stun Lvl 2,
Fatalis can be stunned in 8 shots. With one gunner, and a fast enough gun,
around 10 or more shots to achieve a stun on Fatalis.

You might want to stun Fatalis in order to support fellow team-members meleeing
Fatalis. Sometimes, if Fatalis is in the air, a good hit from a Stun shot will
bring him crashing to the ground, even if he is not subsequently stunned. When
Fatalis does get stunned, the animation is interesting to watch. He goes groggy
and limp, and his head flops down. Then the yellow electic stun animation
starts.

Using melee weapons, It is also possible to stun Fatalis using an Iron Devil or
Trident.

Fatalis can be poisoned, and poison works almost the same way as stun, with
tolerance levels for Fatalis of 400. However, Fatalis loses poison tolerance
faster than other monsters. If you want to try, use Poison Shot Lvl 2; and
bring small bone husks and Ioprey fangs to combine. It will take over 10 shots
to do so and he stays poisoned for only about 30 seconds. Gunning him appears
to be more effective than using a poison melee weapon. We have tried using a
Chrome Razor on him without any effect.

Fatalis can even be put to sleep. It takes about 8 to 10 Sleep Lvl 2 shots to
put Fatalis to sleep, although this might be something you would do as a gag
because the next hit would just wake him up.


Can Fatalis be trapped?
-----------------------

For those of you who might be hopeful enough to bring a pitfall trap on a
Fatalis quest, the short answer is no. It's not that he cannot be trapped, for
we don't know that, but the game won't allow you to place a trap anywhere in
the Castle.


What about meleeing Fata? 
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Fatalis can be successfully meleed and a party of 4 just using melee weapons
can repel Fatalis, but with all things being equal, a melee weapon is never
going to be as effective as a gun firing Cluster 2 shot.

You need to have skill and a certain amount of courage while attempting to
melee Fatalis, in addition to a good understanding of how he moves and attacks.
A single mistake can often result in your death. Even experienced blademasters
need to be cautious around Fatalis.

Any melee weapon can be used against Fatalis, although it is preferable to use
one that has Dragon element. The Black Dragon Spear and Eternal Annihilator are
the favorite melee weapons as they deal the most damage, and have a long reach.
There are those who argue that a hammer is the best weapon to use in general
because they hit much better. Dragonbreaker is a good hammer to use on Fatalis,
and even the Dual Dragon Ultimus has its advocates. We have also tested out the
Black Dragon Sword and the Eternal Strife. Due to the close striking nature of
the last two weapons, great skill and armor are necessary of course. Dragon
armor is a good choice, but the best armor to use is the Hornet+/Vespoid+ combo
with the +25 Dragon resistance.

Using a Great Sword, attack the chest, belly and if possible, the groin area.
Fatalis seems to be weakest there. If he is immobilized, attack the head and
wings. Most blows to the back and body tend to bounce off however. Using a
lance, charge attacks work, but you need to be fast and try to go through the
body, aiming for the chest at the right moment. Attacking the back legs and
tail also work, and is probably safest.

Try not to get caught between Fatalis and a wall. Always try to maneuver to
attack so that you have space to escape after striking the blow. A fireball and
even a direct bite CAN be blocked, especially if you use a lance, but it takes
off almost all your stamina and some health. Using a megajuice is definitely
helpful.

If you have a gunner with you, ask him to stun Fatalis with Stun Lvl 2 shot.
This makes it easier to attack him and you will deal more damage. The wings are
a good choice, as is the head. Lancing the head when Fatalis is stunned causes
him to flinch noticeably, and is as close to headlocking as you can get with
this giant dragon.


Can you make a profit from fighting Fatalis?
--------------------------------------------

Given the high cost of ammunition, you might be discouraged from trying to make
money off Fatalis runs, and in fact, you would be right, as there are more
lucrative quests such as dual Raths or Lao+ at your disposal as an HR20. Still,
it is possible to make money off Fatalis provided you don't kill him too soon.
If a party of 4 can ease off on the dragon and do enough damage to repel him,
over the course of 4 or 5 rounds, you can make a decent profit.

Assuming that Fatalis has an HP of 1 million, it takes 125 Cluster 2s on
average to kill him, it will cost 26520z for ammo. We have run some Fatalis
rounds to completion, taking into account the reward money and all the parts
you can take off him including the carves at the end, you end up with
approximately 56000z. The potential profit off a complete Fatalis kill is
therefore around 26000z or thereabouts, depending on your ammo usage.


What is Fatalis leeching? 
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Since not everybody can host a Fatalis quest, the onus is on the 'guest'
players to be honest and upfront about what they can contribute or bring to a
quest. Before you start, make sure you find out from the host what expectations
he has, which round it is and if you have any reservations, tell him. For
example, if you are a beginner and still finding your way around, let him know.

If you are short on ammo or you don't have an adequate gun or armor, let people
know beforehand. The general expectation is that if you come on a Fatalis
quest, you should have at least 60 Cluster 2 shots, if not the full complement
of 102. If not, tell people.

Nothing is more annoying than to see someone start firing Normal or Pierce shot
5 minutes into the round, especially if at the start they replied yes to the
question, "You have ammo?" (which, for Fatalis, means, "You have enough Cluster
2?).

Players who lie about their ammo in order to get into a Fatalis quest, and who
then deny it even after they are caught, are called Fatalis leechers. This is
not a nice thing to be called. People have been known to post the names of such
miscreants on the GameFAQs Monster Hunter message board. You have been warned!


Why do people call Fatalis 'fatty'? 
-----------------------------------

Some pedants want to call him by his full name, but really, you should, for
that is his proper name, and to give the legendary dragon his due respect,
calling something by its true name is the right thing to do. However, 'Fata' is
almost always acceptable as a short form and nobody will take any notice. When
in doubt, it's Fata, and NOT Fatty. Some others take great offense if you call
him 'fatty' and may even refuse to take you along on a quest. At this point,
you don't have the quest yourself, so it's stupid if you act up. Getting upset
about this just compounds matters.

Here's a typical scenario:

(HR17, newly minted, enters town with his YKK cannon. A few HR20s are lounging
around) 
HR17: fatty anybody? 
HR20: No fatty, sry but I have fata and you're not coming

Another HR20 goes to the board and puts up khezu+: Here's a fatty for you

Yet another HR20: I think he means lao. lao's fat right?

So, if you have to beg other people for 'fatty', don't! It's always safe to beg
for 'fata' instead. But in the first place, why beg? Begging for a quest
demeans you in the eyes of some pompous and arrogant HR20s. Don't do it either!

This is similar to the ever-irritating 'volcano+?' first question that some
HR13-15s ask when they enter a town with an HR20. It is also very annoying for
HR20s to be pestered with 'los? blos? etc' whenever you enter town. This is not
a good way to start a conversation. Be nice at all times. Enter town, say some
friendly words of greeting, chat up people to get to know them. Compliment
their weapons or armor. (This will always work to get you on their good side.)
Get to know some HR20s who are nice. They do exist you know. Do some other
quests first with them to get to know them. At least if they're rude to you
while you've been nice, you can always leave town with your conscience intact.

Of course, once you get Fatalis on your own and you can host the quests, you
are welcome to call him what you like. Nobody can tell you what to call him.
But then again, they also have the choice to come with you or not. And there is
a rumor that if you call Fatalis 'fatty' he finds out about it and you will be
trampled and flattened by him in your first outing. So who's fat now?

Many 'first generation' Monster Hunters just despise newer players who call him
'fatty', and this has become an extremely divisive issue as more and more newly
minted HR20s come online without the requisite respect, honor or dignity.

Also, since 'the correct' pronunciation of Fatalis should be Fah-ta-lis, a more
accurate way to shorten it would sound like 'Farty'. We've never heard anybody
call him this, although it can be argued that it's more appropriate for
Basarios and his poisonous gas emissions.


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4) Myths, Rumors, Fallacies and other Absurdities regarding Fatalis

This is a miscellaneous section on odd things people believe about the Fatalis
quest, many of which are wrong or absurd. All of these have actually been heard
and encountered in the Monster Hunter world.

You need to do all the Fatalis quests in order
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Not true, you can do them in any order. Most experts just use the first quest
from a brand-new Fatalis to killing it, usually in two rounds

You can only kill Fatalis in Round 4, and only with the Dragonator
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See above. Not true. There was once an incident where a very foolish hunter
told two of his gunners to stay in camp, so that he and a team-mate could lure
Fatalis all the way to the Dragonator. Meanwhile, the gunners are stuck indoors
when they could be out dealing damage to the dragon. All this seemed to work,
as Fatalis duly followed the two to the Dragonator after a few minutes.
Unfortunately for this strategy, the hunter missed with the Dragonator.
Needless to say, he failed the quest. It is not known whether he did succeed
with this strategy as everybody abandoned him soon after and refused to go on
any more quests with him.

If you get two deaths, abandon the quest
----------------------------------------
Not a wrong thing to believe in, just a strategy, but rather than facing the
possibility of losing the quest, many people abandon and do it again, to
conserve ammo. The purists will argue that this is a form of 'cheating', but
then again, you can say the same about plate runs, suicide mining, headlocking
and any form of circumventing the 'true' nature of how the game should be
played.

Don't bother going back to camp, it wastes time
-----------------------------------------------
Some players who host the quest demand that their guest players do not waste
time by going back to camp. Their contention is that there really isn't much to
be gained by going back to camp (unless you do want to start off on the camp
ledge) as at most you will pick up some meds, rations, perhaps the lifepowder
and the ballistas. You should be able to start the quest at max health and
stamina by eating at the King Room, and you can bring everything else except
the ballistas. This is a matter of strategy, and personal preference.

You can only get a crust if you shoot his belly/tail
----------------------------------------------------
This is not true. You will always get a part after a certain amount of damage
has been done. For the eye, it's after the first repel. For the crust, you need
to do over 75%-80% damage - usually in the last and killing round, or the round
before that. You don't have to hit a particular part.

You can cut off Fatalis' tail
-----------------------------
This is not true. But if it is possible, it has never been verified.

You can jump on Fatalis' back and carve
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You have to be very gullible if you believe the rumor that you can jump onto
his back (usually off the ballista or the dragonator ledge) and carve a Fatalis
plate from there. Needless to say, this prank is only initiated in order to
persuade someone to try to jump off and die a gruesome death.


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5) Acknowledgments

In preparing this guide, we believed that two people could not possibly explain
or even serve as authorities on the strategies and tips on how to take on this
formidable dragon, so we prepared a list of questions and short-listed many
veteran Fatalis hunters to seek their answers. We also asked inexperienced
Fatalis hunters for their opinions too because we wanted a range of opinions as
well.

We compiled and summarized their thoughts and used their inputs as the basis of
this guide. We give special credit where it is due, but where it is not
mentioned, it can be assumed that the facts either came from us, or are so
well-known that it would be meaningless to ascribe ownership.

The players who have helped us compile this guide are: Deathslayer31, John5000,
Space_Avocado, Akubarix, VulgarKyo, W Raider, Bahaumat, Mykal, der_Karl,
Zabuza_clt23, DB_AznGangster, Gravados, Ortega and solsavior.

Many players helped with participating in quests to try out ammo, weapons and
other techniques with Fatalis. Although we cannot recall all of them, here are
the ones we do remember: Torankusu, Zaknafein, Demonsoul, Wave_Snake, Grayson,
Sn1per_X, Brahmas, Kiyoshi.

Special thanks to Deathslayer31 for showing me how he uses all the melee
weapons against Fatalis.

Special thanks to Akubarix for letting me leech off his complete Fatalis solo.

Special thanks to Gravados for working out Stun, Poison and Sleep status
effects on Fatalis.

Thanks to Gravados, Ortega, Sacred, Azerous, Zeddicus, Craze_01, TheDoomBringer
and John5000 for invaluable help in verifying the 'counting screams' method.

Thanks to xLeo, fierceaura, omega bahumat, Sacred, terragen for comments,
background information and/or corrections to the FAQ, as posted on the GameFAQs
message board.

We are also grateful to Bobo for bringing to our attention the correct otaku
pronunciation of Fatalis.

Other members of the GameFAQs Monster Hunter message board have occasionally
helped us with helpful information. Here's a note of appreciation to all of
them!

If you have comments, errors to point out or info you wish to add to this FAQ
please e-mail sanjuro333@gmail.com or post something in the GameFAQs Monster
Hunter message board.