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After which I will layout all of the possible endings you could obtain and until I took the time to discover these hidden mechanics, you will now gain the knowledge of exactly what statistics are used where, to calculate which outcome and ending scenes you get to witness, and how easy it actually is to get the best ending, now that we finally know! This will also explain the infamous glitch of The Shipper's elusive comment. Turns out to be either one of two things; a mistranslation where he should have said something along the lines of "Wow, he ships a lot of eggs!" or "Wow, he ships a lot of milk!" instead of saying "he could ship more of this..." and secondly, could be a programming error where to give you the negative egg and milk comments, the game checks for incorrect values as in instead of the negative comment being triggered by 'If the player has shipped 999 or less eggs / milk' it is actually being calculated as "If the player has shipped 1,000 or eggs / milk.' The Evaluation event is basically what most players would call the end of the game as there are no unique events that take place after this, with the exception of unique events that you haven't triggered from before Evaluation but have met the requirements on a day after it to witness the scene(s). Evaluation takes place immediately once you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, which gives the player a total of 268 days to play through the game before Evaluation commences. If you do not get the Bad Ending, after the credits roll, you have the option to continue the game's saved data and play for pretty much forever as you please. The year will not exceed year 99, just so you know. It is extremely difficult to get the Bad Ending, so it isn't something you should worry about. As a final note, this guide is about the conclusion of the game and will thus, obviously have spoilers in it. You have been warned. @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ & Version History & @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ [Versi] Version 1.00 - May 30th, 2011 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ I only expect to release this document once, in terms of content as I'm very certain I've uncovered everything right down to the programming aspect of it all. Updates will likely be grammatical and / or spelling fixes, or otherwise information I either discover myself, or I'm informed of and tests prove such information to be positive and accurate. I completed all of this work beforehand, as I'm simply not the type of guy that likes to submit half or partially completed work, thus the only date I really have to provide at this time is the release date to GameFAQs. This initial release took somewhere around 48 hours of work to compose and analyze the game while recording and organizing the information into a decently readable format. @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ & Table Of Contents & @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ [Table] 1) Introduction...................................................[Intro] 2) Version History................................................[Versi] 3) Evaluation Comments............................................[Comme] a) Mayor's comment...............................................[Mayor] b) Midwife's comment.............................................[Midwi] c) Potion Shop Owner's comment...................................[Potio] d) Doug's comment................................................[Dougc] e) The Shipper's comment.........................................[Shipp] f) Greg's comment (fisherman)....................................[Gregc] g) Head Carpenter's comment......................................[HeadC] h) Basil's comment...............................................[Basil] i) The Gourmet Judge's comment...................................[Gourm] 4) Harvest Moon 64's Many Endings.................................[Endin] a) Bad Ending....................................................[BadEn] b) Good Endings..................................................[GoodE] 5) Credits........................................................[Credi] 6) Copyright......................................................[Copyr] @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ & Evaluation Comments & @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ [Comme] I will list the comments for each NPC in order from worst comment to best comment. &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % Mayor's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Mayor] His comment is determined on a General Affection Total (GAT) scan. This byte remains 0 throughout the entire game, and before evaluation commences, when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, this value is then calculated and finalized and remains at whatever it changes to this day, permanently for the duration of the game. It basically adds together every affection point for every applicable NPC (which is every single NPC with an affection value).. and changes a completely different byte (appropriately named as the GAT byte) to the total amount, which is what affects the comment. You can have all villagers at 0 affection, and manipulating the GAT to 4001 or higher will give you the best comment. Marriage, certain events, or anything else does not make any difference in his comment. All that matters is the GAT. 0 - 1000 GAT "He really doesn't socialize much." 1001 - 4000 GAT "He gets along pretty well." 4001 or higher GAT "Yes, everybody trusts him." &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % Midwife's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Midwi] Her comment is determined on a General Girl Affection Total (GGAT) scan. This byte remains 0 throughout the entire game, and before evaluation commences, when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, this value is then calculated and finalized and remains at whatever it changes to this day, permanently for the duration of the game. It basically adds together every affection point for every applicable NPC (which is ONLY the five marryable girls).. and changes a completely different byte (appropriately named as the GGAT byte) to the total amount, which is what affects the comment. You can have all of the girls at 0 affection, and manipulating the GGAT to 1001 or higher will give you the best comment. Being married or having a kid or even ever purchasing the Blue Feather makes absolutely no difference in her comment whatsoever. All that matters is the GGAT. 0 - 250 GGAT "He really doesn't talk to the girls." 251 - 1000 GGAT "He seems to do pretty good with the girls." 1001 or higher GGAT "He's very popular with the girls. They all have a crush on him." &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % The Potion Shop Owner's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Potio] His comment is determined on the number of days you have gotten sick total. The actual byte that records how many times you've become sick is NOT what is scanned for the evaluation comment, surprisingly enough. Instead, like the GAT / GGAT, when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, the regular sick days byte is scanned and that value is copied to ANOTHER byte called the Evaluation Sick Day Total (ESDT). 10 or higher ESDT "He gets sick a lot. He doesn't seem very strong." 3 - 9 ESDT "He is a pretty healthy guy." 0 - 2 ESDT "He is strong and healthy and very good about looking after himself." &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% % Doug's comment & &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% [Dougc] This one was an absolute headache to figure out and analyze all of the possibilities and combinations with the complicated animal system. Alas, I have succeeded in figuring out the exact requirements to get his good comment. To end any questions after reading this part, no, it does not matter if the animals are in their baby / infant / adult stage, only the type of animal matters. If requirements are not met "He seems to like animals." If requirements are met, which are: -Must have 4 or more cows (they can be adult cows, infant cows, or baby calves). -Must have 1 or more sheep (they can be adult sheep, or infant sheep). -Must have 1 or more chickens (they can be chicks, or chickens. Incubator does not add to the total). -Cows must be in Normal or Happy condition. Sheep must be in Normal condition. Chickens must be in Normal condition (therefore must be fed). -Must have obtained a horse. "He's a guy who can talk from the heart with the animals. I am very impressed." What you probably thought were requirements but are NOT requirements: -Affection. All animal affection, including the animal barn, dog, and horse, can be 0. -Whether they are indoors or outdoors. It does not matter, as long as they're fed. -Whether you have won the Cow Festival, Dog Race, or Horse Race. Does NOT matter. -Whether you have any cows producing golden milk. It does NOT matter, none of them can be producing golden milk, in fact they can all be producing Small Milk. -How many animals died in your play through, or become Sick or Mad or anything like that. It all does NOT matter. There is nothing in the game recording or counting these things when they happen. -A total number of times you brushed an animal, or milked, or talked to it. &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % The Shipper's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Shipp] The Shipper actually has 2 comments, and the second one has been incorrectly programmed / scripted into the game, because they forgot their own capacities.. either that or the comment was a complete mistranslation and he was actually meant to say "He ships a lot of eggs!" or "He ships a lot of milk!" as in reality, based on the statistical outcome and values of what triggers what events, that is what he should be saying. First comment: ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Evaluation Shipped Total 0 - 8999 "I really want him to ship more stuff!" Evaluation Shipped Total 9000 or higher "Yeah, his numbers are impressive!" This number is calculated in quite a funny way... It adds three values together when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3. Value 1 is shipped total of anything. This byte increases when you put any harvested crops, any eggs, or any milk into the shipping box (this does not include fish or berries or other things you can forage from the mountains). Value 2 is total number of shipped eggs. Value 3 is total number of shipped milk. Why is that funny? Because your total shipped of everything byte includes how many eggs and milk you shipped, on top of all the other crops. So why the game adds this value and adds total shipped eggs + milk ON TOP of this value makes no logical sense whatsoever, but that is what happens. For example: You have shipped 250 turnips, 500 potatoes, 20 eggs, 50 milk, and 900 strawberries when you sleep on Spring 30th. The Evaluation Total Shipped byte is then calculated. The total shipped everything byte is 1,720 (250 + 500 + 20 + 50 + 900), your shipped egg byte is 20, your shipped milk byte is 50. So the calculation is therefore this. Evaluation Shipped Total = 1,720 + 20 + 50, which equals 1,790. This is your EST, and what causes the first comment to occur. If the first comment is a good one (9,000 EST or higher), the second comment can occur. If EST is 8,999 or less, the second comment will never occur. Ever! Second comment: ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ This has nothing to do with EST. This comment scans 2 bytes. Eggs shipped total, and Milk shipped total. "Looks like he works pretty hard." You get this comment regardless of whatever you ship. They can all be at 0, including eggs and milk. If you ship exactly 1,000 or more eggs or milk, you will get one of these two comments: "Hmmm, I think he could ship more eggs." "Hmmm, he doesn't ship much milk." This comment replaces the second good comment if you have shipped anywhere from 1,000 - 9,999 eggs or milk (9,999 is max for eggs and milk, whereas all other crops max out at 999). If you shipped 1,000 or more of both eggs and milk, the egg comment has higher priority and will occur. If however, you have shipped 999 or less of both, you will get the good comment. (Strange, isn't it?). I will make a Gameshark code where shipped eggs and shipped milk bytes will be frozen at 999. This will fix two things. 1) The second comment, always getting the good one like you should, since the negative second comments are glitched and should be the better comments, but instead they are worse. 2) Where the EST is calculated, it will reduce the drastic range of it's ridiculously unrealistic calculation by only adding 999 of eggs and 999 of milk to the EST total instead of thousands and thousands that were already calculated by the shipped total everything byte to begin with. &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% % Greg's comment (fisherman) & &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% [Gregc] This comment is determined just like the GAT and GGAT where it is calculated when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3. The game scans the total fish caught byte, and copies that value over to the Evaluation Fish Caught Total, which is the true byte which is scanned that affects the fisherman's comment. The maximum number of fish you can get is 999, where the game caps and prevents you from catching any more (well, you can catch them, but it doesn't add to the total any longer). 0 - 30 Fish Caught "I'm sorry he doesn't like fishing to much." 31 - 200 Fish Caught "He seems pretty laid back." 201 - 999 Fish Caught. "Yeah, he's a pretty good fisherman." &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% % Head Carpenter's comment & &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% [HeadC] This comment is determined by how many extensions you have. It doesn't matter which extensions, when you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, the game checks the total number (max of 6) of extensions you have purchased and that are completely built. This number is what affects the comment. 0 - 2 Extensions Built "If you ask me, he still has a long ways to go!" 3 - 5 Extensions Built "Well, I think it's pretty good that he's been able to do so much." 6 Extensions Built "Yeah, his buildings on the farm are perfect! I'm impressed he has achieved so much at such a young age!" &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % Basil's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Basil] This comment is determined by the number of squares on your outside farm (greenhouse does not count for anything, especially since you can't grow grass in the greenhouse) that are grass squares in any stage of growth. They can be cut, eaten, half grown, fully grown, it doesn't matter so long as they are grass squares. 0 - 50 squares of grass "He still has a lot to learn about greenery." 51 - 119 squares of grass "His grass fields are in pretty good shape." 120 - 480 squares of grass "Yeah, I'd like to give him a Green Master award." &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % The Gourmet Judge's comment % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [Gourm] This comment is determined by the number of recipes you have collected. When you sleep on Spring 30th, year 3, a new byte calculates the total number you have collected, and this number is what reflects his comment. 0 - 5 recipes collected "I would like to see him collect more recipes." 6 - 34 recipes collected "The recipes for great dishes should be shared. I hope he continues to collect." 35 recipes collected "Oh my, yes. He has a fabulous recipe notebook. I'd like to give him the "Recipe Master" award" @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ & Harvest Moon 64's Many Endings & @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ [Endin] After the villagers have given their comments to your father, you find yourself inside your house with your father. Dialogue takes place and you end up outside with him. &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % Ending 1 (Bad Ending) % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [BadEn] If you do not have a wife and also do not have any animals, he looks at the fields and says you were too early (mistranslation for too young) and you both walk off the screen and you go back to your home town with your father, where the game ends and does NOT give you an option to continue the game after the credits. &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& % Ending 2 (Good Endings) % &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%& [GoodE] If you have 100,000G or more in your wallet, your father will ask if you understand what hard work is. Either answer does not affect anything other then his response. If you have 220 or more Happiness, your father will walk past the animal barn with you to the north end of your farm lands, you will both look at the field and he will ask if you like living there. Either answer does not affect anything other then his response. If you have some animals, you two will then walk toward the animal barn. He will make a bad comment that you have no animals, a comment that it is lonely with so few animals (Doug's good comment requirement is not enough), and a good comment if you have 6 chickens, and 8 barn animals of any kind. They do not need to be outside (why do you think he walks up to the barn?). If you have a wife, she will now confront you and your father and inform you of the party, if you have at least one of the possible Party NPCs at the required affection for them to show up. If you have a baby, the baby will be in your Wife's hands during this scene. Now the party begins. A maximum of 10 NPCs are selected to show up for the party. The game does not invite who has the highest affection, all the game checks for is "does this NPC has 160 or higher affection?" and if he or she does, that NPC will show up. Only 10 can show up, so if highest affection / tied affection doesn't determine the order of which order they show up. What does? Simple, there is a set list. The order will ALWAYS be the same, if a NPC in the list doesn't meet the affection requirement of 160 or higher, the game will skip this NPC and the next one that meets the requirements will enter the screen and carry on down the list. If you have 160 or higher affection for the following NPCs, they will show up for this party segment. The order is exactly as the list is ordered. Party NPCs: The Shipper May Pastor Brown Rick Gotz Sasha Lillia Basil The Mayor Mayor's Wife Doug Kent Stu Karen Kai Popuri Gray Elli Jeff Ann Cliff Maria Harris The NPCs that will not show up under any circumstances: Barley Sydney Carpenter #1 (Saw) Carpenter #2 (Axe) Head Carpenter Duke Ellen Greg Midwife Potion Shop Owner Saibara Harvest Sprites The Gourmet Judge Now that all of the guests have shown up, the ending continues. If 11 or more NPCs meet the required affection for the party segment and you have a wife, after they have come onto the screen, your father will say "Wow, all these people are your friends?" and your wife will answer for you "Oh, that's not everyone, but let's begin. Father, come this way." If 11 or more NPCs meet the required affection for the party segment and you do not have a wife, after they have come onto the screen, your father will say "Wow, look at all these people!" with a big smile on his face. If 10 or less NPCs meet the required affection for the party segment (having a wife does not matter), after they have come onto the screen, your father will say "......You don't have many friends, do you?" At this point everyone leaves, including your father, and you get to enjoy one of the two possible scenes remaining before the credits roll. 1) If you have a wife, she will talk to you and ask you a question, from which has no affect on anything but her response. 2) If you do not have a wife, you will stand there alone in the silence of the night, while the screen fades to the credits. @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ & Credits & @>--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--vv~~@~~vv--'---,---'---,---'---,---'---,--<@ [Credi] Firstly, I'd like to give Sam Van Dam credit for giving me the idea to figure out everything involved with the Evaluation int erms of mechanics and requirements in order to achieve the best comments. This lead me to see if any other variable could change the concluding scenes if they were changed around, and such tests have proved to be true in some minor cases. Sam Van Dam, this shout-out is for you, sir. Thank you! Next, I have to thank the makers of the Cheat Engine software, which allowed me to view any and every byte within the game to closely monitor values as they change in real time, right to the millisecond! This program is the magic behind all of my testing and statistical information, everything from pointer scans, to memory region access programming routes. Thank you! Next, I must thank the staff of GameFAQs for looking over the document and considering it for approval. Next, I must thank Victor Interactive Software, the developer team that created this wonderful game for us all to play and enjoy however we see fit without having to worry about things like if the next boss will kill us or anything like that! Finally, I credit myself for the hard work put into the data collection. 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